{"id":197867,"date":"2024-09-16T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2024-09-16T16:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ibkrcampus.eu\/campus\/uncategorized\/will-they-or-wont-they-part-whatever\/"},"modified":"2024-09-23T15:09:18","modified_gmt":"2024-09-23T15:09:18","slug":"will-they-or-wont-they-part-whatever","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.interactivebrokers.eu\/campus\/traders-insight\/securities\/macro\/will-they-or-wont-they-part-whatever\/","title":{"rendered":"Will They or Won\u2019t They, Part Whatever"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>The upcoming Fed meeting is like the climax to a lousy romantic comedy.&nbsp; By now, we know that the key players \u2013 in this case the FOMC and Mr. Market, rather than two attractive actors \u2013 will get together on Wednesday.&nbsp; But we don\u2019t yet know the dynamics of the relationship.&nbsp; The FOMC is playing coy, and we still don\u2019t know whether they will be willing to offer a chaste kiss (25bp) or something more enticing (50bp), and whether they are willing to offer the intense, passionate relationship that their suitor desires.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Early last week, the market seemed to think that a 25bp cut was far more likely until Thursday afternoon\u2019s <em>Wall Street Journal<\/em> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wsj.com\/economy\/central-banking\/fed-interest-rate-cut-size-861c9600?mod=itp_wsj\">article from Nick Timiraos<\/a> (a Fed whisperer extraordinaire).&nbsp; That report returned the more aggressive 50bp cut to the forefront of the discussion.&nbsp; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/news\/articles\/2024-09-13\/ex-fed-member-dudley-sees-case-for-half-point-rate-cut-next-week\">&nbsp;Comments from former New York Fed<\/a> President Dudley advocating for a half-point drop, along with a dearth of commentary pushing back on that notion has sharply increased the odds for a bigger cut.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>According to the CME, the chance for a 50 bp cut was <a href=\"__doPostBack('ctl00$MainContent$ucViewControl_IntegratedFedWatchTool$lbHistorical','')\">14% on Wednesday<\/a>.&nbsp; It was 50\/50 on Friday and is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cmegroup.com\/markets\/interest-rates\/cme-fedwatch-tool.html\">61% as I type this<\/a>.&nbsp; The probabilities on the <a href=\"https:\/\/forecasttrader.interactivebrokers.com\/eventtrader\/#\/market-details?market=g2&amp;id=658663572202409184.8751\">IBKR ForecastTrader<\/a> have also changed dramatically.&nbsp; There is now a 60% chance that the Fed Funds target rate will be set above 4.875% on Wednesday, down from 90% last week.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Despite the evidence above, I\u2019m still in the 25bp camp. &nbsp;This was the basis for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.interactivebrokers.com\/campus\/traders-insight\/securities\/macro\/50-doesnt-seem-so-nifty-today\/\">a report I published<\/a> around midday Wednesday, and I still stick with its premise. &nbsp;I still lean that way for four reasons:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>The Payrolls, CPI and PPI reports all revealed price pressures.&nbsp; Although Chair Powell reminded us that the Fed will be equally focused on the maximum employment portion of its <a href=\"https:\/\/www.stlouisfed.org\/in-plain-english\/the-fed-and-the-dual-mandate\">dual mandate<\/a>, stable prices still matter.\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><span style=\"color: initial\">In the Payrolls report, monthly hourly earnings rose by 0.4%, ahead of last month&#8217;s 0.2% and the 0.3% consensus<\/span><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><span style=\"color: initial\">In the CPI report<\/span>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><span style=\"color: initial\">Core rose 0.3% on a monthly basis, ahead of the 0.2% that was both the consensus and the prior readingReal Average Hourly Earnings rose 1.3%, more than the previous 0.7% (no consensus available)<\/span><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Core PPI rose by 0.3% on a monthly basis, also ahead of the 0.2% consensus, though the prior 0.0% was revised down to 0.2%<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The Fed doesn\u2019t like to surprise markets.&nbsp; By definition, if we\u2019re about 50\/50, then half the folks will be offsides.&nbsp; Even if we\u2019re 60\/40 for a larger cut, we will still see many surprised investors.&nbsp;<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Though they\u2019ll probably get accused of playing politics either way, they\u2019ll get less pushback with 25bp rather than 50bp ahead of the election.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The tone of the FOMC Statement and the Summary of Economic Projections (aka, \u201cthe dot plot\u201d) will matter considerably.&nbsp; Markets are pricing in nearly 1.25% in cuts for the rest of 2024 (in other words, five 25 bp cuts in the three remaining meetings) and roughly 2.5% by the end of 2025.&nbsp; We have to wonder whether the Fed will want to signal that they foresee the sort of economic weakness that would justify that level of rate activity.&nbsp; (That plays into the political considerations as well)<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p>We\u2019ll find out the answers to the \u201cwill they, won\u2019t they\u201d on Wednesday, and whether we\u2019ll need to stay tuned for the inevitable sequel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>By the way, there was a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/news\/articles\/2024-09-16\/equity-option-traders-play-defense-with-fed-rate-cut-on-deck\">Bloomberg article<\/a> this morning that noted that traders were pricing in a 1.2% move for the S&amp;P 500 (SPX) on Wednesday.&nbsp; The following table shows us that is actually a fairly typical post-Fed move:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1100\" height=\"1300\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.interactivebrokers.com\/campus\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/09\/Picture1-9-1100x1300.png\" alt=\"The following table shows us that is actually a fairly typical post-Fed move:\" class=\"wp-image-197868 lazyload\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/ibkrcampus.eu\/campus\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2024\/09\/Picture1-9-1100x1300.png 1100w, https:\/\/ibkrcampus.eu\/campus\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2024\/09\/Picture1-9-700x827.png 700w, https:\/\/ibkrcampus.eu\/campus\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2024\/09\/Picture1-9-300x355.png 300w, https:\/\/ibkrcampus.eu\/campus\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2024\/09\/Picture1-9-768x908.png 768w, https:\/\/ibkrcampus.eu\/campus\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2024\/09\/Picture1-9.png 1172w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 1100px) 100vw, 1100px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 1100px; 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