{"id":194648,"date":"2024-06-04T12:15:00","date_gmt":"2024-06-04T16:15:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ibkrcampus.eu\/uncategorized\/us-versus-them-versus-you\/"},"modified":"2024-06-05T08:51:34","modified_gmt":"2024-06-05T08:51:34","slug":"us-versus-them-versus-you","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.interactivebrokers.eu\/campus\/traders-insight\/securities\/stocks\/us-versus-them-versus-you\/","title":{"rendered":"Us versus Them (versus You)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>(Today\u2019s musical accompaniment by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bing.com\/videos\/riverview\/relatedvideo?&amp;q=us+and+them&amp;&amp;mid=CD09FC1A9577B47C4D81CD09FC1A9577B47C4D81&amp;&amp;FORM=VRDGAR\">Pink Floyd<\/a>)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Here we go again.&nbsp; I spent a good portion of the past two days commenting about the latest burst of activity in GameStop (GME), including making it the focus of <a 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key element that fueled the original meme stock rally was an \u201cus versus them\u201d mentality that was fermented on social media.\u00a0 \u201cThem\u201d was the short sellers who were perceived to be rooting for the demise of the chatroom denizens\u2019 favorite stocks.\u00a0 But what fueled that zeal?\u00a0 At the time, with the help of my [then 23-year old] son, I attributed it to nostalgia:<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>\u201cThe short squeezed WSB [Wall Street Bets] stocks all have one thing in common besides being short squeezed.&nbsp; They\u2019re all things a 20-something person would be nostalgic for.&nbsp; GameStop, AMC, Nokia, Build-a-Bear \u2013 things that would make you sad to hear are failing business because it means that you\u2019re old.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In the January 2021 article that was the source of the nested quote above, entitled \u201cGameStop, BlackBerry and Nostalgia\u201d, we continued:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>I had been trying to figure out why a seemingly ragtag list of brands had such staunch advocates all of a sudden.&nbsp; There was an emotional chord behind the mania, beyond even the desire to get rich and the latest expression of the age-old desire to \u201cstick it to the man\u201d.&nbsp; There is a real sense of advocacy behind many of the posts, and this would explain it.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cUs vs. them\u201d, or \u201csticking it to the man\u201d can be powerful motivators.&nbsp; If a large group of disparate individuals are going to coalesce over social media, a common goal or motivation is necessary, and the original Reddit community found one in battling the institutional short sellers.&nbsp; There was a somewhat moralistic rationale along the lines of \u201chow dare they do this?\u201d, combined with the fact that short squeezes have existed for about as long as there have been short sellers.&nbsp; A group of individual investors, led by an oddly charismatic character, found a potent mix of newly active 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